Q: What drew you to Vicious? A: Derek and I arranged a reading with friends. We went round to Derek’s and read the script, and our friends laughed all the way through. I thought, “Aha, it works.” Its aim is to entertain people by making them laugh, and once I realised it did, I was very glad to do it. Q: Please describe your character for us. A: Freddie is a pain in the neck, but he’s also a survivor. He’s game. He’s always up for it. He is also honest and is not afraid to speak his mind. I really do like Freddie. Q: How would you characterise the relationship between Freddie and Stuart? A: It’s a relationship of long standing. They have fallen into the habit of being horrid to each other. Although they’ve got into this habit, they clearly still love each other in the way that people who have been together for nearly 50 years do. They’ve survived. Anyone who was gay in the 1970s was rather heroic -‐ when Freddie and Stuart first knew each other, it was actually illegal. But they’ve come through thick and thin together, and are still incredibly close. Q: Do they like to keep the rest of the world at bay? A: Yes. They are not aware of much outside their own flat. They keep their curtains closed to shut out the outside world. The serious point is that for much of their lives they have had to live privately. Q: Do you think this show will shock some people? A: No. It’s not aiming to shock people. It won’t alarm anyone. It isn’t a satire or an expose of gay life. These characters just happen to be gay. For me it is as if TV has grown-‐up. In the past gay characters in sitcoms have been figures of fun. They were funny because they were gay. But I like the fact that these characters are funny because of the people they are. That’s a real advance. Q: What do you think its appeal will be? A: I think it’s a family show that will get the broadest possible demographic. Old people will respond to it and see themselves in it, gay people will respond to it and see themselves in it, and the rest will respond to it and see themselves in it. Everyone will be able to relate to these characters. It wasn’t meant to be a gay or an old audience. Q: Have you enjoyed the studio recordings? A: Very much so. Initially it seems confusing because as a theatre actor you think the audience is out there. But you have to remember that you also playing to an audience down the camera. You have to rely on the wonderful director, Ed Bye, who is a veteran of this type of comedy, to make sure you get the level right. Also at first it’s worrying as you think, “Am I going to remember the lines?” In the theatre, you have more rehearsal time, and in film you can stop and start. But with this, you just have to keep going. However, it’s really useful to have the studio audience there because they tell you exactly what’s funny. Q: How have you found it working with Gary Janetti? A: It’s been wonderful. It’s a fairly traditional sitcom which reminds me of The Golden Girls or I Love Lucy. Gary is very, very alert to what’s comedic. He writes hythmically and with great accuracy. He is very particular that we speak the lines exactly as they are written, in order to elicit a laugh. He’s marvellous to work with. All in all, it’s been a bit of a love-‐in! Q: What are the advantages of casting you and Derek as Freddie and Stuart? A: We don’t have to pretend we’ve known each other for 50 years because we have. It was a great relief when I saw the first episode and Freddie and Stuart looked as if they’d been together forever. That ease with each other is essential to the show. Some people will be delighted that Derek and I are making fun of ourselves. We’ve had a ball making Vicious. It’s been an absolute delight.
-很少见的描绘老年基友生活的片子。
不知怎的让我想起了《生活大爆炸》,都是一个新鲜血液给几人墨守成规的生活带来变化的故事。
如果忽略两个男猪的基友身份,这不就是对老夫老妻在那里相互吐槽么~~但问题是直男在租房成功以后,还有多少理由要和这两个老家伙混在一起呢??
这点让我略有担心,不过目前来看,依然是一部值得追下去的片子。
用喜剧形式来讲他们俩的故事,剧作人的角度绝对打满分。
我并不清楚英国人是如何看待基佬,甚至不知道这种同性恋情是否会与米国国情相悖甚至冲突。
但最起码对于我所处的国度所处环境中,它会起到舒缓压力和一定镇静作用。
Two man,two old man。
日子还不一样这么过。
甚至于他们比我们更懂得用贱嘴毒舌来调剂平淡无味的生活。
两个老人和一只老狗相伴至迟暮之年,虽然每天都会假装巴不得对方明日清晨醒不过来,但无论是攻是受,他们不会忘记在对方最需要的时候挺身而出。
往往是这样,生活才会给你意想不到的答案。
所以斯图尔特那个早应该叩响天堂大门的妈妈在晕厥过后依然能轻松而愉快地活着。
当然喜剧应该不会有阴谋论的。
我想斯图尔特的妈妈不会为了让自己的儿子离开一起生活了49年的伴侣而佯装出来一副“我可以接受”的样子吧。
第一季落幕,期待第二季。
拉开窗帘,窗外下着雪。
窗外下的雪很美。
这部剧也很美。
周年庆将要结束,这一季也就这样结束了。
真是美好的一对啊。
我不由的这样感慨。
我记得Freddie对Stuart表明心意,镜头里Ash插在他们两个的中间我不明白导演是什么意思,是给第二季埋下伏笔吗?
还有最后Ash被强吻真的亮瞎了。
还记得开始对这部剧有很大的期待,最终到结束也没让我失望。
很好看。
end.我突然就想到我们。
四十九年以后的我们还在吗?
我们还相爱吗?
我们还相伴吗?
会不会像他们一样依然斗嘴,吃醋,然后说对不起就原谅对方,然后就会一直陪伴着对方。
这个世界上有两类人你是很难应对的,一种是无畏的人,另外一种就是无欲的人。
这样的情况具化到人类身上表现为一种是熊孩子,而另外一种就是老人家。
你以为的老人家是什么样子?
含饴弄孙颐养天年,得了吧,那都是没得着机会的大多数情况,如果有机会老人家才是这个世界上最为得瑟毒舌闷骚显摆......等等你能想到的形容词于一身的那个物种。
但是为什么不呢?
这个世界虽然现在是我们的,但是这个世界的规则还是他们制定的呢,即使没有制定也是他们经手的,所以,所以他们当然有理由有原因有立场对现在的世界指手画脚表达看法。
更何况,对于这个世界他们早就没有了要求,你对没有要求的人怎么要求?
他们对自己的爱人朋友甚至家人都可以出言讥讽谎话脱口而出,对其他人还指望他礼貌有加吗?
得了吧,如果真是那样,这个世界才是奇怪到要末日了呢?
当然了,老人家的抱怨或者毒舌自有他们的分寸和智慧。
尤其是这部片子里面的两位英国的老爷爷,或者说所代表的腐国的那些年老之后的好基友们。
对自圆说还没有找到合适机会告诉老妈自己是Gay的爱人毫不留情的跟上一句“你已经等了48年了”,瞬间秒杀了对吧,但是对方还能面不改色的来一句“这就证明确实一直没找到合适的机会”,而对自己的朋友也是毫不留情:你要是嫌我准备的面包小,那我把你带来的空气端上来如何?
如果这话放到早三十年说给朋友,估计现场会血流成河了吧。
所以你看,年老的好处就是,我想揍你,但是实在挥不动拳头了,所以我只好在言语上打击一下你吧,哪怕只是让你感觉一下也好啊!
如果真的一不小心伤害了你,哇,太好了!
谢谢你终于感受到了我的用心良苦。
至于说到秒杀,呵呵,还有人能拼得过英国的老人家么?
那一集斯图尔特伤心欲绝的告诉自己的好朋友,我是不是真的很没用啊?
对方深情并茂的说,当然不是啊,你又英俊又有爱心,世间难得的好人,相信我,福瑞德。
瞬间,想死的心有没有?!
但是你以为那个听到应该会死的人真的会撞墙吗?
得了吧,他才不会这么想不开呢?
反正不用撞墙那个时刻也会很快到来,再等等吧。
所以即使说了听了再难听的话,对方也只会起身告辞。
连抱歉都不用说了——反正年纪大了,明早就不记得了。
年纪大了的好处就是,即使你依然如同GOOGLE一样记得住所有,但是并不妨碍你在心情很好心情不好滔滔不绝无话可说打击别人甚至只是出于好玩的时候跳一下场,失忆一下,所有人都会原谅,因为老年人自然有年老的福利是年轻人羡慕不来的。
更大的好处是即使出错了场,连抱歉都不用说,甚至都不需要脸红。
所以Penelopy才会一次又一次的转场,却无人对此提出半分不满。
所以,年轻人就不要在老年人面前表现智慧了,于是编剧就找了一位看上去如此朴实憨厚的孩子来做他们的邻居,面对两位好基友朋友Violet的种种调戏,好孩子也只能装傻充愣卖弄天真了。
但是,即使这样和Violet浑然天成的真性情一比,也立刻下风了有没有?!
所以你因为老年人都是优雅正统的吗?
得了吧,英国的老太太从出生到死亡就一直坚定不移的相信着人间有真情人间有真爱,年纪一大把了还在网络上与欧洲乃至世界的帅哥们谈着恋爱呢?!
更不要讲远渡重洋的去阿根廷寻找真爱!
所以,所以,看完这部片子你觉得三观都要毁了?
得了吧,如果三观不毁你又怎么能活到年老而去毒舌年轻人呢?!
所以,所以你或许会问,要怎么对付这样的老人家呢?
如果一不小心碰到了这样的情况?
不然我用青春无敌炫耀于他们面前?
打击他们?
得了吧,你的所谓年轻他们压根不会羡慕,同时还会告诉你:年轻啊,我已经年轻了快一个世纪了,但是你老过吗?!
所以,还是得了吧!
无意中点开这部剧,是因为“伊恩·麦克莱恩”,很显然,我把这个名字和另一个写小说的人弄混了。
可是却因此看到了这部有趣的剧。
48年的相守,一方的霸道,另一方的忍让,以及双方对感情的维护,它的笑点和动人处已无需赘述。
更重要的是有些细节令我感同身受。
他们在一起时的勇敢,以及斯图尔特48年对母亲的隐瞒。
如果48年后我们仍在一起,那也会是一段佳话吧。
可是如果分开,那就完全是一部反面教育片。
我不知道会是什么样的结果,也不知道此时的勇敢是勇敢还是盲目。
只是想跟随自己的心,走下去。
不准变老,不准变傻,48年后,我还要你伺候着。
这就是Ian爵爷跟他的初恋男神合作的搞笑英剧,但搞笑之余又有感动。
虽然Freddie是个傲娇攻,一直对Derek凶不拉几的,但是在第六集他们两个对Derek妈妈出柜时,Freddie说的那番话绝对是发自肺腑的。
两个人一起过了50年【希望我没记错第六集是庆祝他们两个在一起50年...还是49年来着】,几乎是整个人生的一大半了。
我想现在还能很少有两个互相相爱的人在一起共度一辈子。
我不歧视同性恋【好吧可能是支持=、=我身边就有啦,她们过的很好】他们/她们在国内没有婚姻保证,只能靠相爱,在一起一辈子很不容易。
不知道最后该说什么了,反正我想这就是真爱啊!
祝福所有相爱的人们皮了个爱死,Ash在第二季一定会被掰弯的!!
希望他找个好小攻/受
今天李澈聊的是一部英国同志剧《极品基老伴》。
这部剧由英国两位出柜的国宝级老戏骨伊安·麦克莱恩和德里克·雅各比联袂出演。
主角是两位同居近50年的同志恋人弗雷迪和斯图尔特。
前者年轻时是一名不温不火演员,后者年轻时是酒吧服务员。
两位主角年事已高,却依旧毒舌不改,整日相互挑刺却又深爱彼此。
整部剧就是讲述了两位老年同志恋人与他们几位朋友的夕阳生活。
年轻时的弗雷迪和斯图尔特这部剧笑点密集却不失温情,台词考究,布景和人物衣着都有着英国伦敦的绅士味。
两位主演演技精湛,几位配角也格外出彩,看完两季剧和一部完结篇,最大的感受就是:这世界最好的爱情就是陪伴。
在第一季里,每一集开头都是小图图在和老妈通电话,小图图总是找各种借口及时挂断妈妈的电话,或者有人敲门,或者电话信号不良。
挂完电话后,还是一脸嫌弃相。
可就是这个连自己老妈都觉得很麻烦的小图图,却毫不厌烦地伺候了恋人五十年,每天早上为他泡茶,每天托着茶盘将茶杯递到他的手上,每次在老伴接过茶的时候,准确地往茶杯里放上一块方糖。
他熟知自己老伴只喝泡了3分钟的茶。
弗攻傲娇异常,毒舌异常,每每总是主动攻击他的小图受。
嫌弃他一事无成,嫌弃他身材走样,嫌弃他声音太娘。
而小图图也会反击,说老伴一身老人味,在演艺事业中就是个跑龙套的。
每每对抗,弗攻占上风,这上风也许来自于经济优势,也许来自于感情优势。
(总觉得小图图爱弗攻更多一点)每每小图图无力反击的时候,总会像个受气小媳妇似的,扭着屁股去厨房独自神伤。
但是当弗攻知道自己开玩笑过了头时,也会向小图图道歉。
我们的小图图是非常没有节操的,前一刻还对弗攻咬牙切齿,决心冷战到底,后一刻就在老伴的温柔攻势下缴械投降,像个明朗的少女喜笑颜开。
弗攻身上有着明显的大男子主义,家务活全交给小图图做,小图图很爱弗攻,知道他有着强烈的自尊,在老伴被选为第十名最受欢迎的反派角色,需要出席放映会时,为了能让弗攻穿上一件新外套,小图图自己悄悄去服装店打工,宁愿被老伴误会自己出轨,宁愿被晚辈经理指手画脚。
所做的一切,就是为了维护弗攻的自尊,而他自己的自尊呢,如他所说,早都没有了。
他知道老伴一辈子都渴望在演绎事业中取得成绩,渴望获得演绎大咖们的认可,所以在弗攻生日时,自己悄悄仿拟一位演绎明星给老伴寄来祝福卡,只为他开心。
自己明面上精心准备的生日礼物,一份老伴过去50年庆祝生日的相册时,却让老伴置若罔闻。
在众人面前,弗攻总是显出和小图图两人关系中的优越感,认为自己是主导的一方,可有意思的是,只要每次引发深度战争,当两个人单独相处,总是弗攻先服软。
比如攻击小图图一事无成后跑去厨房真诚道歉;比如小图图参加舞会,极度排斥的弗攻在最后一刻出现,主动要求作为老伴的舞伴并求婚;比如在和小图图因为婚礼事件闹崩分开又在餐厅相遇,小图图试图离开时,弗攻出手挽留。
再比如,在整部剧的结尾处,躺在床上的弗攻主动对小图图说:“Stuart,will you hold me?”(你能抱着我吗?
弗攻的大男子主义还表现在关键时刻维护老伴,就在小图图的老妈对儿子说话毫无尊敬之意时,弗攻挺身而出,对图妈用非常严肃的口气说:“你刚刚说话的对象,不仅是你的儿子,也是我49年的伴侣,我要让你知道,他是这个世界上最棒的人,我很骄傲的称他为自己的爱人。
这些年我们虽然发生口角,但是我无法想象没有他的生活。
所以你要想跟他说话,就把态度放尊重一点。
”弗攻认为,自己的老伴自己怎么欺负怎么虐都可以,但是不能让其他人欺负,哪怕是老伴的母亲,也要给予小图图绝对的尊重。
剧中有一个亮点,就是窗帘的隐喻。
两位男主角在一起的年代,那个时代同性关系还不合法,两人同居,一直将窗帘紧闭,躲避世俗的眼光。
就是在这个无法让阳光透进来的房子里,两位相互陪伴,在共同坚持了50年后同性婚姻已合法的今天,两人终于举办了婚礼。
在最后的剧里,房间的窗帘也适时拉开。
那些年两人是秉持着怎样的勇气在一起坚持,我们能猜的到。
两位老爷爷的故事给了愿意坚持走这条路的基友们“宁弯不直”的勇气。
前面说过,《极品基老伴》给我最大的感受便是:这世界最好的爱情就是陪伴。
日常的爱情,不会如小说里演绎的那般曲折虐心,缠绵悱恻。
我们这些普通人的普通爱情,就是在无风无浪的日子里相互陪伴。
这爱情没有多少波澜,这爱情就是在几十米狭小的空间里,你在餐厅收拾餐桌上的剩菜时,我在厨房刷碗;这爱情是你在沙发上打游戏时,我坐在你身边看书;这爱情是你在书房加班时,我在书房外为你热牛奶。
这爱情在细水长流的日子里看似平庸,却非常真实。
正如弗攻的表演者伊安·麦克莱恩,在剧后采访问及如何看待剧中两人的感情时,他回答 :“They have fallen into the habit of being horrid to each other.”澈澈在想,等我们老了,多希望身边也有几个如剧中那般奇形怪状,大脑机能都已经不能正常运作的朋友,相互有一句没一句地聊着天,揭露彼此当年的糗事,吐槽时下看不惯的流行趋势。
但这些所有,我最希望的,还是自己老态龙钟之时,身边有一个白发婆娑,蓬头历齿却傲娇如初的老伴。
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正如越强大的人才越敢于表现脆弱,感情越是坚不可摧的恋人才越能肆无忌惮地狂涮对方,用两人之间专属的冷嘲热讽模式告诉对方:“I see you; I know you; I love everything you are”。
恶狠狠的唇枪舌剑其实是浓得散不开的恩爱情话。
而当另一半受到来自他人的攻击,无论Freddie还是Stuart都会挺身而出,用不容置疑的口气维护赞美对方。
印象最深的一个情节是,Freddie怀疑Stuart在外面偷吃跟踪他,发现Stuart其实为了给他买大衣偷偷打工。
看到这里还以为Freddie会表示惭愧,结果他恍然大悟之余对Stuart的付出欣然接受,照单全收。
这种大大方方、平衡契合的施受关系看着太舒服了。
无数恶毒玩笑中最多最妙的,就是两人天天变着法儿讥讽对方“老不死”。
当衰老成为无法逃避的生活主题,干脆把它变成一个梗,一起把它玩坏。
XD还有这剧里的衣服真有范,两个老爷爷都很帅气。
比较败笔的是Ash的出镜挺生硬,像道具一样被安插进来,供众老油条调戏。
Q: What drew you to Vicious?A: Derek and I arranged a reading with friends. We went round to Derek’s and read the script, and our friends laughed all the way through. I thought, “Aha, it works.” Its aim is to entertain people by making them laugh, and once I realised it did, I was very glad to do it.Q: Please describe your character for us.A: Freddie is a pain in the neck, but he’s also a survivor. He’s game. He’s always up for it. He is also honest and is not afraid to speak his mind. I really do like Freddie.Q: How would you characterise the relationship between Freddie and Stuart?A: It’s a relationship of long standing. They have fallen into the habit of being horrid to each other. Although they’ve got into this habit, they clearly still love each other in the way that people who have been together for nearly 50 years do. They’ve survived. Anyone who was gay in the 1970s was rather heroic -‐ when Freddie and Stuart first knew each other, it was actually illegal. But they’ve come through thick and thin together, and are still incredibly close.Q: Do they like to keep the rest of the world at bay?A: Yes. They are not aware of much outside their own flat. They keep their curtains closed to shut out the outside world. The serious point is that for much of their lives they have had to live privately.Q: Do you think this show will shock some people?A: No. It’s not aiming to shock people. It won’t alarm anyone. It isn’t a satire or an expose of gay life. These characters just happen to be gay. For me it is as if TV has grown-‐up. In the past gay characters in sitcoms have been figures of fun. They were funny because they were gay. But I like the fact that these characters are funny because of the people they are. That’s a real advance.Q: What do you think its appeal will be? A: I think it’s a family show that will get the broadest possible demographic. Old people will respond to it and see themselves in it, gay people will respond to it and see themselves in it, and the rest will respond to it and see themselves in it. Everyone will be able to relate to these characters. It wasn’t meant to be a gay or an old audience.Q: Have you enjoyed the studio recordings?A: Very much so. Initially it seems confusing because as a theatre actor you think the audience is out there. But you have to remember that you also playing to an audience down the camera. You have to rely on the wonderful director, Ed Bye, who is a veteran of this type of comedy, to make sure you get the level right. Also at first it’s worrying as you think, “Am I going to remember the lines?” In the theatre, you have more rehearsal time, and in film you can stop and start. But with this, you just have to keep going. However, it’s really useful to have the studio audience there because they tell you exactly what’s funny.Q: How have you found it working with Gary Janetti?A: It’s been wonderful. It’s a fairly traditional sitcom which reminds me of The Golden Girls or I Love Lucy. Gary is very, very alert to what’s comedic. He writes hythmically and with great accuracy. He is very particular that we speak the lines exactly as they are written, in order to elicit a laugh. He’s marvellous to work with. All in all, it’s been a bit of a love-‐in!Q: What are the advantages of casting you and Derek as Freddie and Stuart?A: We don’t have to pretend we’ve known each other for 50 years because we have. It was a great relief when I saw the first episode and Freddie and Stuart looked as if they’d been together forever. That ease with each other is essential to the show. Some people will be delighted that Derek and I are making fun of ourselves. We’ve had a ball making Vicious. It’s been an absolute delight.
看到e4弃了。
英国人果然是基佬的世界。千篇一律的笑点,英腔明显的抑扬顿挫,两个基老头讽刺的人身攻击直戳命门,看什么?看大家多么不可思议的在毒舌之中生存?看了这剧有一点好处,那就是让我反省,原来不顾他人感受的吐槽和犀利是那么惹人讨厌。不会看第二季了。
不喜。
好恶毒的南通杏脸……
老gay们实在太呛辣。。。老情侣们都是吵吵闹闹过日子的吧。
弃了,就那来来回回的几个人。。。
水平不稳定……
虽然没什么实质性的故事每集的故事也大差不离,不过看这堆爷爷奶奶互相拌嘴是很有意思的,几个老戏骨的演技自不用说,Ash这个角色的演员也很不错,配上英国口音相当可爱,…“Mom I'll call you later”“Do you remember our friend Violet?”“Hi~”…这么个趋势下去Ash变基佬估计是迟早的事儿了吧
看甘道夫老爷爷和布斯巴顿魔法学校女校长在一起真是有种乱入感,整个场面很像舞台剧,各种毒舌各种拌嘴,好看得紧。
各种有爱,但是一点也不好笑
捏着鼻子看完。全程无笑点,脸绷得都快面瘫了。毒舌就是幽默啊?打打嘴炮,逮着对方的缺陷和弱点搞几句人身攻击就是幽默啊?翻来覆去消费一个梗就是幽默啊?随手撒一地罐头笑声就是幽默啊?
一般,全靠演员支撑,小剥皮最出彩
帅哥是straight 差评
希望越大失望越大吧,本来挺希望这剧全程高能的,谁知道不算很好笑啊,一直只是毒舌毒舌毒舌,偶尔秀秀恩爱很无趣啊。不过这个剧的美指好棒我经常看着Stuart家的装修和Freddie的领带、领带扣流口水,女性配角的衣服配饰也都很好看。ps.冰火的小剥皮演个呆萌系...不太能接受的感觉。
一集看完一次没笑 梗太硬了 看得尴尬 弃
甘道夫是GAY?笑点没笑到,弃
有点无聊
这都是些神马人!!!吐槽的那么带劲
这算恶心萌么(...............对不起
还是蛮搞笑,这几个老戏骨顶起整个剧,ash真是可有可无