故事进展到这一步,王子和王子的童话被踩成了碎渣。
漫画成品的发布会上,Justin在拥挤而混乱的人潮中努力寻找Brian。
周围一具具光裸性感的身体,旁若无人地接吻缠绵,他的目光有些彷徨,我想他是害怕的。
害怕就像第一次满心欢喜地在GAY BAR里找B,却看见他抱着另一个人温柔细腻那样的尴尬。
Mikey对Brian说,你有没有想过,也许有一天,Justin会爱上别人。
Brian照样无所谓地耸耸肩:他那么年轻,我管不了他。
所以当发现J的外遇的时候,B只是愤怒。
他没有想过挽救。
他如濒危一样地抓紧他,他咬他的嘴唇,他用尽全力地吻他,他用J期待的方式,隔离开肉体关系,用嘴唇膜拜他。
但一切不过只是一个证明。
证明两个人的关系已经蒸发。
J的若无其事,J的心不在焉,都宣告爱情已经有心无力地到达了一个临界点。
B在J的身上闻到了别人的味道。
然后他看到了那个别人,在匹兹堡漫天纷飞的雪花里,孤独地拉着小提琴的男人。
B一定觉得很可笑。
连外遇都禁不住在Justin面前赞美,Brian是个尤物。
毫无竞争力的对手,Justin你怎么就心甘情愿地把身体交给他。
Mikey谴责Justin,他说,不管你信不信,你是Brian最爱的那一个。
Justin当然不信,Brian说过,我不会用你期待的方式来爱你,过去不会,将来也不会。
在我身边不会有浪漫的野餐和温存的情话,我能给你的,只有暴烈的性。
所以Justin会说,他不爱我,他只是喜欢操我。
在迷离灯光和震耳音响中,Justin找到Brian。
没有意外地,他正靠着柱子跟另一个男人打得火热。
瞧,关系太轻巧,他连伤心都用不着。
转身的时候,那个小提琴手正好趁虚而入。
Justin背对着Brian跟小提琴手热情拥吻。
Brian摘掉眼罩,面无表情地扯过身边的男伴,继续纵情狂欢。
他们忘了说,爱情真的有问题。
Justin的高中毕业酒会,Brian意外光临,跟他共舞一曲,成为全场焦点。
那晚多可爱,他们只属于彼此。
可是事情就在那一晚开始变化。
J遇到袭击,B心怀愧疚,这愧疚蔓延成一股淡淡的爱意,也许爱里的关怀,是因为责任。
他们开始像正常的情侣一样逛街,约会,接吻,做爱。
那是这个故事最好的光阴,浪子情深,感情锁定给一个人。
如果不问后来,我们就可以心满意足地让这一切落幕了。
究竟是迷恋这种方式的爱,还是借着这种方式的爱来互相伤害,成年人的世界太多揣测和阴霾,sunshine要下雨了。
喜欢Brian是因为他不靠岸。
可是如果对他没有靠岸的期待,又为什么要一直喜欢。
倘若他承认了这份感情,愿意为爱牺牲为爱安营扎寨,那又会怎么样。
如果Justin没有这样年轻,能理解Brian每一个角度的无奈徘徊,百分之一百的包容和忍耐,那又会怎么样。
恨Brian,因为他永远不会告诉你,他在背后为你做了多少事。
他不会告诉你你住院的每一晚他都在走廊上默默等待。
他不会告诉你为了给你找一份好工作他可以牺牲掉多少睡眠。
他不会告诉你失约跟你去滑雪的约定是因为他面临失业的危险。
他不会告诉你他一页一页把漫画打印出来是因为他真的在吃醋。
他什么都不说,你什么都不知道,而你太年轻,他却早就开始承担生活了。
J从外遇的家回来,走进卧室,B只看他一眼,然后掀开被窝,让他躺进去,最后裹住他。
他什么都不说,因为他什么都知道。
两个沉默的人会有将来吗?
在建立足够坚韧的默契以前。
不知道。
可是Mikey说得对,B在用自己的方式爱着J。
哪怕J并不期待。
爱情的问题古古怪怪,可是你不说我不说似乎是最厉害的一种。
不信任是因为害怕信任了以后没有结果。
不交心是因为害怕交心了以后不再动情。
放荡是因为畏惧。
流浪是因为孤独。
可是Brian为什么又要在充斥着爱欲和肉体的场合里,看着J的堕落放肆,露出那样迷恋又不忍的表情。
第二遍了,还是很好看。
这部是我看过的最好看的美剧了。
看第二遍还是觉得有很多思考的地方,比如勇敢,比如什么爱才是真的爱情,比如如何对待朋友,对待家人,对待工作,人生态度,都对我有很大的触动。
而Brian我觉得个方面都是一个榜样,除却表像,他真的很棒,不论是对爱人、朋友、亲人、同事。
而且是那种真实的,而不是虚伪的道德典范!
e1There's got to be someone in this vast panorama of sweaty bodies. You're just dying to have reject you.--EmmettIt's just the essential elements of a healthy diet. Salt, saturated fat, alcohol.--Brian There you have it, proof positive that making other people happy can cause nausea, severe cramps, even diarrhea.--Brian You know how I feel about weddings. They're anticipated, meaningless rituals for heterosexuals.--Mel Why shouldn't he get a little action? He's outside the required 400-mile limit for extra-marital quickies and anonymous assignations.--Emmett There's never a right time to admit that you've failed.--Mikey All protests are bullshit. I mean, a bunch of well-meaning do-gooders marching around carrying signs, chanting "hey, hey, ho, ho, homophobia's got to go". Give me a goddamn fucking break.--Brian e2I want you to hear what I have to say on an empty stomach. So maybe you'll digest it.--Deb We faggots are a talented bunch. You gotta hand us that. And indestructible too. If AIDS and gay-bashers and crackpot Christians and fucking republicans can't destroy you, nothing can!--DebYeah, it's fine to salivate over some bimbo with boobs the size of flotation devices stuffing a zucchini up her twat.but god forbid you should see some guy with pecs of death squatting on a road teepee. Oh, then you're instantly out on your ass. -- Ted Look him straight in the eye, and tell him that even though the law permits it,you think what he did is unjustified and unconscionable.--Lindsay You know, for someone who has enough disorders to merit your own classification in diagnostic and statistical manual, you are one of the most well adjusted and high functioning bastards I know. What's your secret?A series of hopeless addictions, for one. And never seeing a shrink, for another.--Brian Some things never change, huh? -You're wrong, ma. Things change a lot. If you don't change with them, then you get left behind. Look at me, I'm right back in the same place I was before. And everybody else has moved on. I feel lost, ma.--M&Deb e3These characters have principles. When you have principles, you don't need orgasms.-You have principles when you don't have orgasms. -- Ted &BrianWhy must your happiness always depend on someone else? First Brian, then David, Now back to Brian. If you came back here 'cause you thought Brian was missing you as bad as you were missing him. You fucked up big time. --DebWhat kind of mindless palliative is that for existential angst.--Ted 没什么药可以治疗自暴自弃Before you turn around, you guys'll be our age. And you'll regret every night you didn't go out and grab a little life. -- Vic Things go forward instead of backwards, right? And nothing stays the same. So don't trouble yourself. There's no reasons for you to be there with me, and there's no reason for me to expect you to be.Things have changed, we've moved on and it's okay. No demands, no expectation, no regrets.--Mikey e4I'll be glad when pride's over. So we can all go back to being ashamed. -- Brian e5My dream is to one day know what my dream is. -Dreaming's for people who like to sleep. I'd rather be awake and fucking. -- Brian Life sucks, kid. Better you know it now than be disappointed later. -- Miley I know what happened to you sucks, and I'm not gonna give you some pollyanna shit, about everything happens for a reason, or this was god's gift to make you strong. All you can do at a time like this is just hang on until the scenery changes. --Deb What's easy besides complaining?It ain't the end of the world, kid. Unless you want it to be.Pornography happens to serve an important and profoundly humane service. --Ted e6Internet access: $38.00. Adult porn site membership: $29.95. Watching man jerk off from comfort of your own home: priceless. Masturbate the possibilities. Morning Deb. Flop two, sinker and some suds. -Two eggs, a doughnut and coffee for Mr. Wonderful. --Brian Don't be pathetic. You made a commitment. Now you're going to go through with it.-Yeah, a lot you know about making commitments.Which is why I never do. -- B&M You grab your pud and you pull!You think you got everybody fooled, don't you? Well not me, honey. I've known you too long and regrettably too well. And no matter how hard you try to deny it. I can tell you care as much about him as he cares about you. Only you haven't got the big hairy cojones to say it. --Deb We're queers. And if we're together. It's because we want to be, not because there's locks on our doors. So if I'm out late, just assume I'm doing exactly what I want to be doing: I'm fucking. And when I come home, I'll also be doing exactly what I want to do: coming home to you. --Brian e7Emmett's a star -His dick's a star. He's just the life-support system. --B&M As they say, out of adversity, comes knowledge. And I've learned to put my fears aside, and just find serenity in the chaos. I think the secret is to stop regretting the past and fearing the future, and just live in the now.--Ben If you've got one foot in tomorrow and one foot in yesterday, you'll piss on today.He teaches you to focus on the smallest details. The breeze against your cheek, the way your shirt falls against your body, the feel of someone's hand on your back. Help you realize that right now, this moment is, it's all there is.--Ben Well, that's what writers do, you know, we just cut ourselves open and bleed all over the page. --Ben One of you could be positive. The reason you're not certainly isn't because you're always careful. I know goddamn well that isn't true. You're lucky. You're fucking lucky. So don't tell me you couldn't love somebody just because they're not as fortunate as you are. -- Deb打脸Those who don't learn their lessons are condemned to repeat their courses.e8Youth should be savoured. -- Brian Most of them are too busy chasing their hard-ons to listen to their heart. -- Deb When we said good night, we also said goodbye. -- Emmett Do you know how pathetic you are? One lousy fuck. Now you're carrying on like some lovesick fairy. You've got a lot to learn. Fags will say anything to get their dicks sucked or fuck a nice ass. Then it's on to the next. -- Justin e9What you need is something to keep your eyelids open.You never know unless you try Attaboy. Yeah.Seems success is the ultimate aphrodisiac.It's classic end-of-affair remorse. Made worse by the fact that you don't have anyone to replace him. Whenever I come here, I feel a sense of calm, of inner peace. Knowing that I'm watched over, protected, safe. I took viagra last night. It's been 18 hours and it won't go down. What am I gonna do?-Have you tried soaking it?-How about a cold shower?-How about scaring it?-What about something that would absolutely turn you off?-That's a great idea. Why don't you two show him your tits?God still loves you, no matter what. -Yeah, like I give a shit what god thinks about me. He'd better be worried what I think about him. In all this cold, dead universe. We're the only ones that know he exists. Without us, he's nothing. -- Brian e10I still don't understand why you want to go to bed with an old guy like me, when there's all those beautiful young men out there.-Well, for one thing, most of those beautiful young men are only interested in themselves. And for another, the sex is usually so fast and impersonal, you forget that you had it by the time you get home. -- Emmett e11Blaming the planets for your fuck-ups is just an excuse not to accept responsibility. -- Brian.It wouldn't be right for you to stay. Brian Kinney sacrificing for others. Trapped in a hideous display of sentimentality. I'd lose all faith, all hope. What kind of gift is that?I want you to fuck lots of beautiful guys. No apologies. No regrets. It's the best gift you could give me. Knowing you're happy. -- Lindsay I think you're a selfish, heartless asshole. Keep up the good work. -- Brian Btw: 这一集结尾的剪辑太棒了e12You know what's gonna happen? First we're gonna go back to your place. Then I'm gonna rip off your clothes. Then I'm gonna pin you to the mat like Wrestle Mania. That's just the exhibition match. For the main event, I'm gonna grab your legs and whip them over your head. And work my tongue down between your…-My…what?Well, I got us this far, now it's your turn.-Okay my turn, I say let's get out of here and fuck. --Mikey&Ben It's the first rule of gay etiquette: Never talk about your past fucks. Especially if one of your past fucks is your best friend's current fuck. -- BrianWhen I find out that you and he… I just couldn't stop thinking…-That…I knew him in a way you don't.And he knows you in a way that I do.--Mikey&Ben You had a life before I came along. So did I. Including people we've loved that we're still in love with. But that doesn't mean we can't love each other. -- Ben e13What kind of homosexual are you?-The kind that fucks men. -- Brian Fine, then, go ahead. But don't come crying to me when you succeed--Brian This is it. Don't be nervous. -If my heart rate was any lower, I'd be dead. --Brian e14Did I mention that I have an irrational but nevertheless quite intense fear of any physical activity that doesn't take place in bed? --Emmett Is that "Not thanks, not tomorrow" or "No thanks, not ever"?You're a hard act to follow.Make mad passionate love at the top of your lungs.You deserve a fabulous life, Em.As fabulous as you.Dug her high heels in and she's not budging. The reason you don't have a boyfriend is because you don't want one. If you had one, it would challenge the well-established opinion you have of yourself, as a worthless sack of shit that nobody wants. Therefore, you go after guys you know will reject you, then you stand around here and bitch like a high school girl when in fact you've gotten exactly what you want, mainly…nothing.-- Brian Value, principles, they're the first things to go when you want a cock 最后:whaaaaaaaaaaaaat……e15Knowing you guy's dysfunctional history, you'd put up with anything. -Well, you'll be happy to know that even a glutton for punishment eventually gets his fill. What we had for a few short months was more than most people have in a lifetime. -- Emmett Rage…Hahahahahaha hilarious…e16He's managed to free himself from all the emotional baggage that the rest of us carry around.e17It's much better to give than to receive, except in bed. -- Emmett The only thing that kept him going was his music. No matter how shitty things get, I always have art. It's the one place I can go where I'll always be safe. --JustinCan we please stay home, for one night? Just the two of us.-You're too young to settle down.-You're too old to fuck around.--Justin&Briane19I'd ask you boys to stay but I know you need to toddle on back to your lackluster little lives. --Ted It was just a spontaneous "I don't know how the hell it happened but there you are, doing it" sort of thing.--Lindsaye20The brain is the second sexiest organ. Which is not to say that the rest of you is not hot. --Emmett
这篇点评是完全因为只喜欢brain这个角色而做的点评看了《同志亦凡人》第二季后 真的一肚子的火。
心疼brain,brain对比第一季真的成熟了很多 改变了很多。
父亲去世前出柜、母亲信仰基督教时出柜 请问brain受伤需要安慰时传说中的sunshine在哪呢?
你想要和brain成为伴侣难道不是应该互相包容互相体谅吗?
从justin遇见小提琴手人设就开始崩了。
看上去是brain没有体谅justin没有照顾justin的感受但是在brain工作岌岌可危面临失业时候为了你的学费旅游费吃喝拉撒费到处奔走就不能体谅一下吗?
brain又不是可以依靠父母男朋友的大一学生,他有自己的事业人生需要顾及的东西,为什么就要围着你一个人转呢?
第一季brain理都不理你你还不是跟在屁股后面说不后悔不放弃 然后第二季愿意和你建立伴侣关系就开始说三说四?
反正brain工作累死累活安慰朋友sunshine就觉得brain只是要上床了就够了?
你要求别人关心你的同时能不能自己多关心下别人?justin对小提琴手的要求相比于brain就低太多了吧?现在来说就是双标狗。
小提琴手因为有共同的艺术爱好很快走到一起正常,可是和brain定下的规则也即刻破坏了。
从规则建立开始到第二季结束justin作为sunshine是不是破坏的太彻底了?
和小处男接吻和小提琴手接吻。
还有最后一集和michael的对话堪称人设彻底崩溃。
michael和brain是多少年的朋友了?
你自己出轨还要骂michael混蛋说他打小报告?你谁啊 你出轨还有天理了 白天在小提琴手床上晚上还回去干嘛?
就算在外面上床是规则允许的一部分,请问接吻呢?还要撒谎说自己认真学习?
学什么?
gay bar男舞者?
最后brain从第一季理都不理你到第二季为了建立规则、遵守规则,最后还舍不得你要你留下来。
这些还比不上小提琴手先拒绝你在去酒吧说离不开你?
你不是深爱brain吗?
不是为了他什么都愿意吗?
怎么brain的挽留就可以视而不见觉得brain心寒而选择空虚时获取安慰的小提琴手?
编剧如果是想营造brain很惨的戏份我觉得他为justin这种人动心已经很惨了 父亲死了母亲不理解 儿子也没有监护权 朋友也有自己深爱且深爱自己的男朋友。
sunshine也有日落的时候 brain只适合一个人过 没办法像自己说的那么爱他就早点滚 还好最后大结局他们分开了 不然我会气死看到第二季结束就知道michael和brain才是真正的心灵伴侣 至少需要你的时候一定会在
Q:很多粉丝真的想看到Brain和Justin结婚,他们会结婚吗?
你们有非常具体的理由来解释为什么他们没有结婚吗?
A:是的,我们非常清楚很多的粉丝尤其是女性粉丝对最后没结婚unhappy 。
我们认为这部剧有两方面的人故事线,一方面是同化的故事线,另一方面又有独立主义的故事线。
You know that Brain was a character who was the separatist(独立主义者). He defined himself as a queer. And Michael, on the other hand, wanted to get married. Ben and Michael moved to the suburbs, raised a family. And Michael and Brain, who had been lifelong best friends since high school. They were like brothers really. They had an enormous falling out(大吵一架), and it was sort of like the end of their friendship.(第五季第七集Brain因Justin离开而冲到Michael家中说他infected Justin).Brian said you’re like imitation straight people getting married.(模仿异性恋结婚,这比异性恋结婚更糟糕). And Michael retaliated(反击), well, you’re just an aging clubboy, and you refuse to grow up in your pathetic. And that was the end of their relationship. Until the end of the final season, where there was this bombing at Babylon, and Michael was critically injured. And that incident brought them back together that their friendship was more important than how they were viewing(看待) the different choices they made in their lives. So at one end of the spectrum, as i was saying, there was Michael and Ben, at the other end of the spectrum was Brain and Justin. And yes, Brain finally said to Justin, I Love YOU. And they are going to get married. Brain bought the rings. And then something happened, which we felt was very true to these characters. SACRIFICE (牺牲) was always a very key theme in QAF. Even way at the beginning and the 1st season, when Brain went to Justin’s father and their house, cuz Justin’s father had said to Justin, well, you can live at home just as long as you’re not gay. And Brain had a moment with Justin’s father. He said that’s not LOVE, that’s hate, when you ask somebody to change in a very essential way for you to make you happy so that they’ll love you. Brian was saying, that’s unfair sacrifice to ask anyone in the name of love to do something like that. Now Brain and Justin realized something. Brian knew that if they were get married, Justin was going to give up a future that he might have in New York or he could be a where it could be a successful artist. And he didn’t want him to sacrifice that opportunity for and give that up. And Justin also came to a real realization that, you know, the man he fell in love with, was a lion, not a house cat. And by expecting Brain to make sort of major changes. You know, he said that isn’t really, that isn’t fair. Are we sacrificing too much? (重点来了‼️)That in no way ever meant in our minds that they no longer loved each other.(在我们看来,这绝不意味着他们不再彼此相爱). It didn’t mean that they were never going to see each other again. I looked online, in fact, a few days ago, to see how long it takes to fly from Pittsburgh to NY. And it’s 53 min, in LA, i have to tell you, it takes longer than that to drive to work and home. So of course, they’re going to see each other again.(当然,他们还会再见面❤️). You know, we had said, well, don’t you think maybe, like, they bought a house in Provence, Justin became very successful and they bought this lovely house, in Provence where they spent every summer, Christmas and New Years, they go to London, Paris. They see each other on the weekends!!!(另一位编剧谈到) You know, Brain, to me, is probably highly moral, cuz he lived by his own code, and OF, Justin have the same code. And together, like in that Covenant scene where they, if you remember, they expressed the rules of living together. They transcended in many ways (他们在很多方面很超前,that’s true). The ritual they didn’t, they don’t need a ceremony (仪式), they don’t need rings, they don’t need any of this, cuz they know that they will always be together in their hearts. They even if they have other relationships. That’s the primary, the romance you were talking about. That’s the primary relationship in their lives. And I think they realized that they didn’t need that. But there was never any thought in our mind that they would never see each other.And that line that Brian had, where he said, it’s only time. I brought this along, i thought it might come in handy,(会派上用场)(然后开始读莎士比亚十四行诗0116号:“我绝不承认两颗真心的结合会有任何障碍若是一看见人家改变便转舵,或者一看见人家转弯便离开,那爱就不算爱不!
爱是亘古长明的灯塔,它定睛望着风暴却兀不为动爱不受时光的拨弄尽管红颜和皓齿难免遭受时光的毒手爱并不因瞬息的改变而改变,它直到末日的尽头也巍然矗立”That’s how we felt about Brain and Justin.鼓掌!!!
👏以上均来自于网络【同志亦凡人15周年重聚记者会】————————————————自答一些问题:Q:BM VS BJ:A:看到有人说特别想要BM,但如果你真的被代入到这部剧,全身心感受动用自己的身体器官,你会感受到Brian和Michael更像是一生的挚友,陪伴彼此,或许的确,Michael一直暗恋着Brian,Brain也肯定知道,但他们之间有着共同的承诺,而且最后彼此两人都找到了自己的另一半;而Brain对Justin的感觉、出轨后的反应,完全就是爱情,第二季的时候他对Justin的出轨而伤心痛苦,他为Justin如此艺术天赋而高兴。
Q:为什么第五季最后一集那么伤感:A:拜托,最后一集代表着我们再也看不到新鲜的Brain了,这难道不痛苦吗……但这并不代表BJ分手了!
就像最后所说的,“生活仍在继续”,我们都活的很好!
另外关于电视剧的制作,因为我没有学过或者了解过电视剧具体制作模式,但这肯定跟电影有所不同。
但就这部剧来说,两位编剧很厉害,他们真的是太有学问了,懂的太多,角色台词都太牛了,你会感觉角色们既能知道莎士比亚达达主义又能在暗室里Fuck~两位编剧共同创造完五季,在此之间导演换了很多,每一集都有不同导演轮番拍摄,但也能保持风格相同,但我们也察觉不出(虽然有差别),所以电视剧的故事很重要还是。
在一些集的结尾会出现“in memory of xxx”字样,可能故事也是来自生活。
剪辑很牛,有几处很喜欢,镜头有几处也很棒,比如第二季19集最后Brain发现了Justin出轨之后的愤怒,导演使用环绕镜头,顶光设计,很有力量的表现出来。
配乐也很棒,第一季第四集的Brain去找Justin的配乐太欲了!
演员都很棒很棒很棒,太棒了!
选对演员是成功的一半!
看到之后他们接的戏都不怎么好,但他们应该是幸运的人,因为很多人还都没有代表作。
一个人一生有一部代表作,也是很幸福的!
第一次剧评,献给BJ。
个人认为第二季比第一季精彩,不仅是剧情,还有一些镜头,都很有意思,印象深刻的是两次结尾,B叔独自一个人的场景,让人心疼,但又觉得B叔该疼一下。
B与J,两个人,一个要说,只要浪漫;一个要做,只要性。
浪漫与谁一起都行,性跟谁做都可以。
所以即使他们都爱着彼此,可要说的不做,要做的不说,都没法满足对方,我想这或许是他们分开的原因吧。
可能文化差异吧,我始终不能理解B叔的生活方式,可能说之前没跟J确定关系,天天与不同的人做爱,还能理解。
但是,明明跟J互相爱且心里都认定对方是男朋友了,B叔还天天带人回家,在J面前做,真的不理解。
最迷惑的是,J过生日,竟然给他送了个男妓?
或许B叔认为这是最好的礼物,可却是他与J分开的导火索,对于J来说,他完全不理解B叔竟然看着别人对自己blow job,还是在自己的生日day。
我用力去思考B叔所做的事,但无法接受。
我知道B叔是爱J的,但或许他不清楚自己的爱,又或者,B叔没那么爱J吧。
因为,你说B叔不爱J,但他在J在医院时的一个多月来每夜都陪在J身边,还不告诉任何人你说B叔不爱J,但他在法官不公正对待J的事件时,他用自己的方式偷偷报复了法官你说B叔不爱J,但他每天都把血丝巾穿在身上你说B叔不爱J,但他在J母亲求他收留J的时候,他答应了,一直照顾J,帮J克服对人群的恐惧你说B叔不爱J,但他一直关注着J,他在J害怕时,第一时间就发现了,然后抱住他,安慰他(这也是最触动我的点)你说B叔不爱J,但他一直鼓励他让他继续画画,还给他买电子设备,让他重拾画画的信心你说B叔不爱J,但他在J提出要求时,他都答应了,并且给了J承诺,他也真的没有再去打破规则你说B叔不爱J,但在J提出不用套时,B叔很严肃告诉他跟谁做都要用套,因为他希望J能够平平安安的你说B叔不爱J,但他在J需要帮助时,给予J所有帮助,虽然不想让J跳舞,但依然尊重他,让他用自己的力量去挣钱。
你说B叔不爱J,但他却同意J反攻他(B叔当时震惊的眼神简直太可爱了!
)你说B叔不爱J,但他在看到J和M一起制作漫画时,吃醋、生气,最后大爆发。
爆发完知道自己错了,还主动认错,并且用尽一切办法帮他俩宣传你说B叔不爱J,但他在J提出周末去滑雪时,叔马上说去一周滑雪旅行。
虽然最后B叔没去,但B叔在回来第一时刻分享好消息给J,知道J一个人去了滑雪,还难过加生气,没跟朋友们说任何,就走了你说B叔不爱J,但他还是去了花摊前,想要给J买花当作生日礼物,虽然最后没买。
(!!!
这个场景,真是让我爆哭啊啊啊啊啊)你说B叔不爱J,但他在知道J有了外遇后,很用力的吻J。
还刻意营造三人场景,用钱去诱惑J的外遇。
并对J说,他可以给J一切J想让他说的话,去挽留他,在J晚回家后,还掀开被子,让J躺进来,并抱住他(这场景,B叔眼神太心疼了!!!
)但是,你说B叔很爱J,但他的确是因为愧疚,才对J照顾你说B叔很爱J,但在J母亲跟他说,让他再也不见J时,他就真的对J那么狠心,J找他,他也不理你说B叔很爱J,但他一次次在J的面前跟别人做爱,还不断的带到家里,让J看着他们做你说B叔很爱J,但他一点儿都不在乎他的生日,最后给J的礼物竟然是个男妓,他还看着男妓给J blow job你说B叔很爱J,但他取消之前与J约定好的旅行,什么解释都没有(他可以为了M而坚决的退掉自己的会议,却不愿意跟J解释或者再做一个承诺)你说B叔很爱J,但当J学着B叔语气,说一些甜蜜的话时,B叔知道却什么也不说,J不止一次问B叔有没有想他,他只是fuck了J,没有给J任何回答你说B叔很爱J,但他什么都不会对J说,他可以对M说关心安慰的话,却不会对J说你说B叔很爱J,但在J最难过的时候,在J的party上去fuck别人,看到J后依然享受着sex中西方文化差异太大了,多年前米国真的发展迅速,没法想象20年前的美剧如此精彩,思想之深,开发程度如此之大。
我想BJ是爱彼此的吧,只不过一个只要浪漫,一个却只给性。
所以最后J还是离开了B,去找自己想要的生活
暂时只看到S2,就目前剧情的想法如下:作为一个和B有着诸多相似感受的人,我非常能够理解J的出轨。
因为小提琴手某种意义上满足了J对于异性恋式的浪漫的排他性的爱情的幻想。
B不是不爱J ,只是他爱的方式与J想要的大相径庭。
作为一个早年未能感受到爱的人来说,B惧怕表现爱,表达爱,因为害怕失望,所以选择不去相信,不去希望。
在M为男友开party 却被泼了冷水后,B说的是因为“you want too much ”,然后M指责难道自己要像B一样to expect nothing ,to want nothing 吗。
这就是BJ 面临的感情困境。
如果你选择只为自己的感受负责,那关系就永远是一种枷锁。
B自己大概也清晰地认识到,所有relationship 都是留不住的。
故我看完S2的结局,其实并没有感到悲伤或遗憾。
“谁人又相信一世一生这肤浅对白”,一个童年满目疮痍的人,一个打算39岁生日自杀的人,过去不值得缅怀,未来不值得期待,B是活在当下的。
我们彼此相拥相爱过,走过一段路,有过一些moment ,体验到快乐,就足够了。
我可以接受他拿着“谢谢参与”的瓶盖逐渐消失在我的生命中。
J边听小提琴边在空荡荡的阁楼里玩椅子,fucking romantic ,他那么寂寞,他心里的空洞该如何填满。
倘若真要找一个人实现他理想中的爱情,清晨一起醒来,听着古典乐看橘黄色的日出,你很难说两个天才不是天作之合。
B习得的那潦草的爱情观念告诉他,爱他就是让他回到属于他的世界。
总归来说,J是个太过年轻的孩子,看不清B洒脱冷漠外表下是一颗与他同样渴望爱的心。
或许某一天吧,他已有能力读懂B不成熟的举止、过激的行为,读懂B的口是心非与言不由衷,以及适应了他那套傲慢的自我驯化理论,然后他们重逢,抵首一笑。
二刷,更新印象深刻的几集:EP04 游行:sunshine 在养老院遇到Hobbs ,心情沮丧,说这场游行就是freak show ,但M坚持带他来。
J问为什么,M说是为了确保像Hobbs 那样的人没有获胜。
M: I told you I didn’t want to come here.B: Well, you’re here. And, you’re queer. So…enjoy it.M: It’s just a big freak show.B: Oh, did you think you were going to find pride at the parade ?
M: So what are we doing here?B: We’re just making sure Chris Hobbs doesn’t win.所以我喜欢B,他不是不在乎,他用自己的方式守护着这个群体。
我们要争取权益,要抗争下去,这是为了确保世界不被另一些人所占领。
端庄的林赛穿着棉麻长裙坐上女友的机车后座;B的母亲优雅地、平静的、从容地走在同性恋家属联谊会队伍里,她曾经那样无法接受自己的孩子是个同性恋,如今却可以举起proud of my kid 的牌子;在意世俗评判的M继承了Godiva 的遗志,穿上她华丽的礼裙,走到他曾经无数次试图隐瞒取向的超市同事面前,深情拥吻他恐同的老板;Emmett想起游行前一天逝世的变装女王,眼含热泪高呼“You go girl!”;B在汹涌人潮和霓虹灯下邀请J共舞一曲,告诉他“I promise you won’t forget this one” ……游行日抹掉了所有人的一个缺陷,抹掉了鸡毛蒜皮的琐碎日常,这是编剧创造的童话世界。
EP?
(不记得了,林赛婚礼那一集)我原以为,在拉拉婚礼上接到林赛手捧花的会是Justin ,或是为承接后续剧情发展选择的 E或 Ted,没想到转场到迈阿密夜店的Brain。
Party 上变装嘉宾的婚纱远比林赛精致,首饰也比Brain 救场的戒指更加贵重。
Brain接到捧花的那一刻,我终于明白,这部美剧到底在宣传什么,塑造出完美B不是推崇他的生活方式,而是all about love 。
EP20 可能是状态原因,看这集的时候变得无比感性,忽然觉得小提琴手不太行。
他和B在咖啡馆聊天的时候,西装革履成熟多金游刃有余B和潦草贫寒生涩难堪的他,不如不对比,一对比起来我真想说,他怎么配的?
J怎么能选择他?
(好吧我过于刻薄了)漫画的舞台剧演的这么完美,台下的原型B和J却在面临感情危机。
这部剧很有预见性,原来即便是在同性群体中,公主王子幸福结局也仅到童话结束后的那一刻。
最后,我觉得S2最美好的是,大家都做到了自己想做的事。
J重拾绘画,M开漫画店,E成为大明星,Ted靠网站赚的盆满钵满,B成为合伙人。
希望大家永远记住,自我价值的实现我远比执着于被爱更加重要。
(去年参加wadsbb论坛剧情回顾活动乱涂了几笔,活动结束后顺便贴在这里)第二季, 第14集 首播时间:2002年4月28号 剧情:此集的剧情紧承上集发展, Justin不愿接受Brian的资助,宁可在Babylon做舞男赚取学费。
开场便是几近全裸的Justin在吧台上舞动bubble butt,Brian在台下忍受众人奚落并极力为Justin辩白,满心苦涩溢于言表。
次日清晨,Justin赖床跷课,Brian的忧心与不满开始显露。
这边厢一片阴云密布,那边厢, Emmett却欢欣鼓舞地做好了与George环游世界的准备。
在一代艳星“Fetch Dixon”的告别party上,Justin疲态毕现,Brian提出借钱给Justin,再次被拒。
Justin此刻剖析心迹,表明不愿接受Brian资助的原因:“You once told me that you want me to be the best homosexual it was possibly for me to be. Doesn't that include being a man(你曾经告诉过我想让我成为世界上最好的同性恋者,这不包括成为一个真正的男人吗)?
”Brian的回答 “Sometimes a man has to learn to accept help(有时候一个男人必须学会去接受帮助)”引发Justin的思索。
Justin与Babylon老板Sap订下约定,以参加老板的私人party来换取周末休息恶补作业的机会。
Brian得知后,半是吃醋半是忧心,无奈Justin主意已定。
就在这个晚上,命运的齿轮开始转动,将每个人带到了不同的方向。
Emmett和George坐在飞机一等舱里兴高采烈地展望美好新世界,不料乐极生悲,高空“大战”之际George心脏病发,猝然离世。
抢救无效之后,Emmett木然坐在George身旁,陪伴爱人最后一程。
此处Emmett的台词让人心酸:So, here we are, honey. Flying around somewhere between Heaven and Earth. Lost in the stars(我们现在在天空和大地间飞翔,迷失于星际之中)Ded对Ben的态度依旧冷淡,Michael“投桃报李”,毫不掩饰对Deb和警官carl约会的不满。
在与Deb发生激烈冲突之后,Michael来到Woody’s,在买醉的Ted和Brian处泄愤。
回程的路上,Brian对Michael的吃醋心理进行分析,针针见血。
Michael超速被拦,遂将对carl的不满发泄到执勤警官的身上,导致三人被捕。
牢房里三人各抒己见,carl出现将三人释放,并与Michael小谈片刻。
Michael认识到自己的问题,餐厅里向Deb道歉后母子重修旧好,同时Deb也首次向Ben释放善意。
不出Brian所料,Sap的party里充斥着毒品和性爱。
Justin被迫吸食白粉,神志渐失。
Sap趁势揩油,伙同其狐朋狗友意图迷奸Justin,关键时刻Justin奋力反抗,抬脚踹飞Sap,得以脱身,却也因此被炒。
大牢历险后的Brian回到家中,Justin守候已久,对Brian的晚归表示不满,Brian直言安抚后询问party状况,Justin隐去详情,放下自尊,向Brian寻求金援……心得: 其实很怕写这种观影心得,大概太明白自己对Brian的偏爱,生怕会以罗生门的方式叙述,隐去Brian的所有过失。
所幸挑中的是这一集,观点不会太过偏颇。
事实上,这是全剧为数不多的几次让我能够对Justin击节赞叹,尤其是在他说“I’m trying to look after myself for once, instead of always letting you do it for me(我只是尝试着照顾自己一次,而不是每次都让你为我做)”的时候。
毕竟你不能要求别人在养你的同时还尊重你,这既是成长的宣言,也是独立的尝试,也体现了在一段恋爱中要求平等关系的不断努力。
然后自立的同时并不愚蠢,受挫之后,一个男人应该懂得在什么时候寻求帮助。
同时,本集的辅线也放在Michael和Deb的母子关系上。
我从未喜欢过Michael,never have , never will。
第一季中Deb说Michael有一颗Big heart,是我觉得本剧最大的讽刺之一,每每想到便付之冷笑。
有一颗Big heart的人不会当面讽刺自己的母亲见到男人示好便贴上去,有一颗Big heart的人不会对自己最好的朋友说“他当然会离开你,谁不会”。
昨日种种昨日死,我对Michael的厌恶却绝对延绵不绝。
本集最大的亮点,也最为让观者津津乐道的,莫过于最后BJ性爱情节的攻防转换了。
鄙人第一次看到这个情节之时,目瞪口呆,惊到下巴险些没合上。
然后就开始拼命吐槽导演和制片的疏忽懈怠,Brian第一次做bottom的戏,就算不搞得惊天动地,至少也象征性地让Justin拿一罐lube吧,这样直接就上,你插得进去吗?
真的插得进去吗?
不专业啊不专业,碎碎念一百遍。
体味再三之后,不得不说这场戏的意味深长。
Justin的这一举动,与其说是生理上的需求,不如说是心理上的发泄。
这个晚上受到的一切屈辱,一切惊慌,一切亟待修补的自尊,都通过情人的身体得到舒缓。
Top也是一种控制力的体现,从今而后,两人关系里dominant的那一方,怕也发生了转变。
Brian也彻底沦陷在Justin的手掌心里不得翻身了。
好吧,通往gay男心灵的道路经过直肠。
•L和J一样是真的爱B •所以他们真正地懂B •真正地懂和B之间的爱最好的样子应该是如何 •No apologies, No regrets, No sacrifices 琳赛不希望B为自己的婚礼放弃本计划好的旅行Justin不希望B为和自己结婚放弃Brian的本性“I am who I am.” 我爱你是爱你本身.(二刷的体验感真的太棒了)
迈克笑起来真的好好看啊,光荣日那一集真的是让我激动到爆炸,超兴奋啊!!!!!
贾斯汀妈妈说她为贾斯汀骄傲时我开心到原地转圈啊,然后迈克出场啊啊啊!!!
这部剧真的神,这一集真的好啊啊啊!
神剧神剧神剧,第十集对生命和爱情有关的诠释把我惊到了,看的每一集都有所收获,我太爱黛比了!!
每个人的性格角色都好鲜明,都好爱啊啊啊,艾美特也太A了叭,超爱我又回来了,同一天看了好多集,莫莱妮和琳兹结婚的那一集看的超感动的啊,也超激动,我也希望有这样的朋友,不,家人。
她们两个说的话也很戳我啊啊啊:not even the stars and the planets could keep us from exchanging our vows.I love you. you are my beshert.with so much love and support around us,I really do believe that there is no obstacle,no problem we can't overcome.together.In friendship and in love.Our hearts will be eternally united.I love you.还有ben的那个wink也太宠溺和可爱了叭_(:з」∠)_看到剧里的他们那么开心,屏幕外的我也笑的像个傻子哈哈哈哈,我太爱这部剧了,真的每个人都超爱啊啊啊感觉Micheal有点不那么让人喜欢了,有点虚伪的赶脚啊啊啊啊我不希望看到Michael和Brien睡啊啊啊(捂眼)(‵□′) ╰(‵□′)╯ (▼皿▼#) 幸亏他们没做,哈哈哈哈,Michael和Ben这对也太暖了叭(*`・з・)ムッ,这剧拍的真好Emmett好惨啊(╥ω╥`),其实我当时在这之前就有想过的,没想到真的发生了,编剧对Emmett好点好伐,最后他的演讲太感动了,屏幕外的我也想给他鼓掌Brian对Michael也太好了吧,Brian对Michael说的话好戳我啊ಥ_ಥ,对sunshine都没有那样,应该是不同的态度叭,想让sunshine变的成熟一些,可是sunshine还只是个孩子啊,有那些Brian认为不成熟的想法很正常的啊,我超能理解sunshine。
Emmet我最爱(⑉°з°)-♡ sunshine和Brian貌似有些要开始虐了啊((o(>皿<)o)) !! 其实我觉得Brian应该再多在意一些sunshine的,毕竟已经是爱人了,不应该只有肉体上的接触,心灵上也需要慰籍,感觉并不是sunshine欲求不满,期待后续发展。
而且Ted竟然对Emmett表现出好感了,真的是太出人意料了,Ted难道不爱Michael了吗,他前面还说过会永远爱他来着(貌似)holy shit,ted还真的告白了,这简直就是个送命题啊,当喜欢上了最好的朋友时,可真的是难搞啊d(ŐдŐ๑),妈呀不要虐,秋梨膏 哈哈哈哈我的妈呀他俩还在一起了,有预感不会在一起太久是怎么回事吼吼吼グッ!(๑•̀ㅂ•́)و✧,Brian啊Brian啊,他俩要虐了π_π,其实Brian在我看来做的是有些不对,最后的镜头brian的眼神让人看了难受啊,他还是在逞强叭 ben和Michael这一对真的是甜到我里,ben真的是太尼玛帅了(ಡωಡ)hiahiahia 有时候真的感觉Mickey不该和Brian离那么近,都不考虑下ben的感受,真的是╮(﹀_﹀)╭第二季,完。
最担心的事还是发生了,和普通同志剧一样,本季剧情开始混乱不堪,快进完弃。
看完后希望现实生活中他们也是gay,我知道这有点自私,但就是忍不住这样想
编剧拆了我最爱的CP于是我就弃剧了……
第二季如果只看万人迷大叔和金发正太的爱情的话,可以说是前甜后虐,两人在一起幸福生活的时候真是萌煞我也,不过真的无法理解布莱恩不乱搞就会死的状态,其实我觉得小提琴手其实很不错的,如果他真能信守承诺的话,他最不该的就是说一套做一套,他是伪君子,布莱恩是真小人,好像真小人一般都更招人爱
又过了一遍,发现大部分之前都看过了。其实我当时弃的主要原因是以为BJ已经定下来了,后面的剧情会主要讲其他人。早知道还有这么多波折的话当年也不会弃的~嘿嘿 BJ大爱!
完全没有了原版支撑的第二季更是俗套了不少,连泪点都没有了,只是因为J挨了一棒所以B就突然爱上他的既视感不能更强。不过J和小提琴手戳了我的萌点,很喜欢他们暧昧的戏份,在街上接吻那一幕real般配。PS每次看到B对M的温柔都觉得暖中藏虐
我不希望Brian爱Justin
一副全世界都要理解我向我妥协的中二作态
重口味。让原本对同性恋毫无意见的我更毫无意见,而且看见他们接吻都觉得特别正常了
这一季好棒,太多现实,太多感动了!还有!第六集!!!
后半部分剧情很天马行空。。。
看了6集,我实在是无法接受Michael的新BF了,还是喜欢第一季里的那个医生BF,新BF从头到脚我都懒得看,弃剧,真是一个鸡爪子坏了一锅汤啊
接受了英美版不是同一个剧之后,慢慢爱上小天使Justin,不过美剧的套路就是睇你大睇你坏,季终天使陨落Brain沉默只有BGM里Bjork的嘶吼稍微释放观众内心的虐度。我不知道除了自虐我还看出了什么可能肉太多我眼已花(最后忍不住说一句:美版真的会把话说到很满很直白,场景没必要也拍出来,把节奏拖好慢
最后BJ不会分了吧?不要啊,虽然我不喜欢justin,但我不要看Brain伤心&gt;&lt;
pride!!!!!!!
喜欢这帮朋友,美好的感觉远胜过爱情。
这剧好淫乱,不是我的取向,但实在好奇BJ会怎么发展
片子里面 麦克的母亲 黛比的思维 是我一直最欣赏的 他开导了很多人
Justin你这个小屁孩。
虽然是海王 但Brain真的迷人、体贴、肯为自己在乎的人付出 他令我觉得为他浪费一点青春是值得的 无论Michael还是Justin都因为他而拥有一些特别的幸福